Have we foregotten the Florida Shooter?

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pmconusa
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Have we foregotten the Florida Shooter?

The buzz is still all about gun control, while the culprit in the Florida shooting has been completely forgotten. Not by the lawyers for both sides who will benefit financially by dragging this case on for months and most likely ending in life without parole a sentence that could have been administered in accordance with the Constitution (a right to a speedy trial). Under Sharia law, flowers would already be growing on his grave. But, if we followed Sharia law there would be one hell of a lot of bankers and money lenders in deep do-do.

Melvin Udall
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You really have an appealing

You really have an appealing approach to things.

Mike G
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Guilty until proven innocent?

Guilty until proven innocent? I'd say that is in full stream with our corporate whores and whores in UK< US and France. There are so many guilty until proven innocent that we are all muslims now, or just Israelis , few Christians, who dat, or just IQ lowered Shiny City on the hill, onward to mutual vaporizing, because goddamn so many deserve it.

So let's talk about anything others than the push to confront at least 2 nuclear powers. They all a bunch of candiasses, we whup their asses, after we dead.

Bruce Libby
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I have a suspicion that Mike

I have a suspicion that Mike G has provided an answer to the original question.

Jasper
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Hey Mikie, drink much?

Hey Mikie, drink much?

pmconusa
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Innocent until proven guilty

Innocent until proven guilty appears nowhere in the law, in particular the Constitution. It is a creation of the legal profession to insure their continuity. It is more difficult to prove guilt than it is innocence, particularly after the culprit has left the scene. According to Leviticus, the law of the Jews, punishment was intended to not only to be inflicted on the perpetrator but to dissuade others from committing the same act. Is it no wonder when we do not punish the guilty that others will not be dissuaded.

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Right until proven wrong

Right until proven wrong appears nowhere in the law or the Constitution.

Toolsmith
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That principle came from the

That principle came from the Common Law, which predates and underpins all of our legal systems.

"In contrast to civil law (which is based on a rigid code of rules), common law is based on broad principles. And whereas every defendant who enters a criminal trial under civil law is presumed guilty until proven innocent, under common law he or she is presumed innocent until proven guilty."

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/common-law.html

Bruce Libby
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Toolsmith have you clear this

Toolsmith have you clear this with our SCOTUS expert ?

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Oh, the "expert"? No, nor do

Oh, the "expert"? No, nor do I feel the need...

pmconusa
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Toolsmith: That is what is

Toolsmith: That is what is wrong with the system. The British have no Constitution and their law has been built up over the years as they went along. The Magna Carta, is their fundamental document that took law making away from the King and the Church of England. It really did not make law but was a limit on what the King could. Like the Constitution it has had its limits emasculated to suit conditions. Like the rules of golf, they have both been altered because people took advantage of their limitations to employ, for example, new type balls that would go further and clubs that could impart backspin. The only basic and inviolate rule of life is thou shalt not steal and no other rules need be imposed unless those who get to make them want to cheat on the basics. We would all be better off if we eliminated the entire U. S. code and stuck with the State Constitutions but the politicians have emasculated them as well.

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WTF score 7.9

WTF score 7.9

Bruce Libby
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Most excellent.

Most excellent.

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