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[i]Editor's Note: I smell a rat here. Actually, more than one rat. I also smell money - government and NGO grant money. Is it possible some chemicals found in "everyday products" are also found naturally in nature? Mercury, for instance?[/i]

Tests on 13 Mainers find industrial chemicals
By Kevin Miller
Tuesday, June 12, 2007 - Bangor Daily News

Environmental/health groups say the presence of industrial chemicals in Mainers who volunteered for a study underscores the need to protect the public from potential toxins found in everyday consumer products.

The groups involved in the Alliance for a Clean and Healthy Maine include: Maine Labor Group on Health, Maine Organic Farmers/Gardeners Association, Maine People's Alliance, Maine Public Health Association, Natural Resources Council Maine, the Maine Physicians for Social Responsibility, and Toxic Action Center Campaigns.

On the Web
http://www.preventharm.org/camp.part.shtml

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Just more of the same brouhaha to whip up public frenzy and fear.
This appears to be part of the same campaign discussed in this [url=http://www.asmainegoes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=451085&highlight=hannah... AMG thread[/url] regarding Rep. Hannah Pingree submitting blood, hair and urine samples to be tested for the presence of 'toxic chemicals'.
(See [url=http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/environment/011350.html]PPH blog, "What's in Your Body?, April 30, 2007)[/url] and [url=http://www.sunjournal.com/story/209824-3/bsection/So_young_So_toxic/]LSJ article, "So Young, So Toxic"[/url])

I've yet to locate the actual study on the [url=http://www.nrcm.org/news_detail.asp?news=1614]Natural Resources Council of Maine's[/url] website, which claims their "Study [Found] 36 toxic chemcials in bodies of Mainers tested". Perhaps they are withholding the information until it is published by the collaborators in some 'scientific' journal...
However, it is interesting to note they quote the PPH story as reporting that:

[quote]Federal regulators have established toxicity thresholds for mercury, lead and arsenic, but [color=indigo][i]there are no government limits for the other chemicals in the study[/i][/color]. Still, Donahue said, the other chemicals should not be ignored, noting that many have been shown to be harmful in animal test subjects. [/quote]

It would be nice to know the complete listing of chemicals tested for, the results, the laboratory which did the testing, etc. etc. etc. - but, I doubt they will be forthcoming with that information. They don't want the general public coming to the conclusion that this may all be much to do about nothing...

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Here's a partial list

1) Coffee Brandy
2) 2-stroke oil
3) Hoppe's #9
4) VP C12

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From an email from MOFGA today.

[quote]Among the participants tested, Libby [MOFGA executive Director] was tied for the most chemicals detected (41 of the 71 that were tested). He also had the greatest number of polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDEs) detected (27 of 46) and higher levels of individual PBDEs. These are the chemicals that include the brominated flame retardant, Deca, which the Maine Legislature recently voted to phase out.

Libby, who generally avoids toxic products and, for decades, has eaten primarily an organic diet, expressed surprise and frustration at the results of his tests. "I have tried to be careful about the food I eat and products that I buy for my home and family, but I realize that I can't avoid these ubiquitous chemicals, many of which have been introduced into the market in the last 20 or 30 years," said Libby.[/quote]

Here's [url=http://www.cleanandhealthyme.org/PollutioninMainePeople/tabid/55/Default... link[/url] to the study group that was given in the email. I see Dana Dow participated.

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With enough coffee brandy the others will still be there, you just don't care anymore. :wink:

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This is all over the media today. I have not seen one story that pointed out that small amounts of these chemicals do not cause harm to humans.

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Small amounts are healthy, because they stimulate the immune system. Same with radiation.

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I may die a horrible and painful death but at 75 years of age I often wonder how I got this far. As young man of 20 I worked in an apple orchard. We used a large array of very powerful pesticides and I would be covered with it on a near daily basis. Such pesticides that were later banned such as DDT, Malathion, Parathion, arsenic and even systemic sprays that supposedly entered the tree circulation system. Many of these pesticides were very powerful and the instructions were that we were not to reenter the sprayed area for many days but we worked in them daily. After reading Silent Spring by Rachael Carson I just knew that I was a gonna but here I am still percolating along on 7 of my 8 cylinders.

I am not convinced that many of these scares are not primarily a safety issue, but one rather of a profit motive to those who have an agenda. I also wonder if DDT were not banned if the tick problem we now have would be as bad. It is a fact millions have died of malaria in areas that could have killed off the disease carrying mosquito had DDT still been used.

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What Gaffer said.

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13 PEOPLE TESTED.

NO CONTROL

THIS IS A SCARE TACTIC.

The TPTSNBN wrote or should I say Copied a press release from this group onto the front page of yesterdays fishwrap.

This is not a study it is an alarmist release, designed to get the press release in a small papers, so other sources can site the TPTSNBN as a source without checking the original source.

13 people, hmm, perhaps they would find lots of things on people if they scrapped them and put it under a microscope.

EJ

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Now, now. Republican state senator Dana Dow was among those tested. Shouldn't that give you all cause for concern. :wink:

[img]http://www.cleanandhealthyme.org/Portals/0/bodyburden/images/200_dana.jp...

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Rockland Courier-Gazette

Toxic news
Created: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:29 AM EDT)

The findings of a study done by the Alliance for a Clean and Healthy Maine are startling.

Many of these chemicals [b]are believed[/b] to enter the body through the use of everyday household items — whether it be cosmetics, food and drink containers, or household appliances.

The federal government during the past several years has largely ignored consumer safety matters.

[url=http://www.mainecoastnow.com/articles/2007/06/14/courier_-_gazette/lette...

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Governor Signs Bill Banning Chemical in Household Products
June 14, 2007
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AUGUSTA – Governor John E. Baldacci today signed into law LD 1658, “An Act to Protect Pregnant Women and Children from Toxic Chemicals Released into the Home.”

“In Maine, we are proud to be at the forefront in protecting our children's health,” said Governor Baldacci. “This legislation recognizes that the levels of the harmful chemical deca have increased rapidly over a short amount of time. We must address this issue for the health of our children and families.”

The Maine Department of Environmental Protection presented a report in January that concluded that safer alternatives to this flame retardant chemical exist. These options are not only feasible, said the report, but economically viable.

The bill prohibits the sale of mattresses and furniture made with deca beginning next year, and bans the sale of new televisions and other plastic-encased electronics made with deca starting 2010.

The bill was sponsored by Maine House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree (D-North Haven), and received broad support from health, environmental and professional organizations. The legislation passed with near unanimous support in the State Legislature.

“The time is now to begin the transition away from the environmental hazard that is deca and toward better alternatives that don’t sacrifice fire safety,” said Governor Baldacci.

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There's long been conclusive evidence linking cheese with death in mice, yet I don't see any of the cheese-eating green shirts demanding cheese be outlawed.

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"Small amounts are healthy, because they stimulate the immune system. Same with radiation."

Not all vectors in the environment "stimulate" the immune system; some suppress it. Suppression of the immune system can hardly be seen as "healthy." Some forms of radiation NEVER "stimulate the immune system," but often mortally damage the entire organism. Bear in mind that "radiation" covers everything from sub-infrared to gamma radiation and beyond. That's everything from below sensible heat up through visible light, AM radio, HD television, cosmic rays, political speeches, heavy-metal decay and proton-decay. However, in large enough populations over long enough time periods, some case of genetic drift can be laid at the "feet" of mutation influenced by a wide panoply of "radiation."

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[quote]“In Maine, we are proud to be at the forefront in protecting our children's health,” said Governor Baldacci. “[/quote]

This is one scary sentence. About the only way he could have made it worse would be if he'd included the word "invest" somewhere. There are many in this state that are California wannabes... they want to "lead the way" down every dead end street they can find. The problem is there's a cost associated with every tilt at the windmill.

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