By From staff and news services,
An influential government advisory panel recommended Thursday that 11- and 12-year-old girls be vaccinated routinely against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.
You can pick it up from your husband and he doesn't have to sleep around to give it to you.
If Cervical Cancer were only a disease spread by unprotected sex with different men, why do women need an annual screening every year? I think you're a little misinformed on that, but then again, I understand why because you have never gotten an annual exam before.
I WILL vaccinate any daughter of mine, and if it's safe for adults I'll get vaccinated too.
As long as it isn't a mandatory thing, I think it would be a parent/child decision not the DHHS and schools decision. I will have to learn more about it before I decide whether or not my daughter will get it. I think it is always wise to research before having a child injected with any drug in the new phase. But it looks like a step in the right direction in the fight on cancer.
I am all for it..let's save some lives.
It's a vaccine to protect against HPV, which is a sexually-transmitted disease. Cervical cancer itself is not an STD, but one of the things that can cause it, HPV, is. Hope that clarifies it.
This is no different from recommending vaccine against chicken pox, mumps, etc etc. It's going to girls because women are the ones who have the risk of developing cancer. My girls will definitely get the vaccine, as well as the hepatis b vaccine that has come out in recent years, also now thought of as a sexually transmitted risk that is routinely vaccinated against.
And furthermore, if you're against it, and your daughter contracts cervical cancer, would you look at her and say: "You shouldn't have had sex"?
Also, a girl could contract it from being raped.
I have a young daughter that is not near 11 yet. I would like to learn more about this. Anything that you ladies would like to share with me could only be a benefit. If she was not raped and never had sex before marriage, then she would not contract this disease, is that correct? The only thing I know about this disease is that exists, that is it.
As long as the guy she marries is a virgin too, it's reasonable to assume she would be safe from the HPV that causes cervical cancer.
If, on the other hand, her husband is [u]not[/u] a virgin, and he's a carrier of the virus, then yes, she would be at risk. Both men and women can carry the virus that causes the cervical cancer.
Also, marriage is no safeguard against rape in all cases. What if she's attacked when her husband isn't there to protect her?
Personally, I would just have her vaccinated, like all the other routine childhood vaccinations, as long as they're sure it's a safe vaccination. She doesn't have to know all the details of the illness it protects her against. You probably don't explain all the details of diptheria, whooping cough and measles, either. All she knows is she gets a shot.
[quote="Catherine8679"]you have never gotten an annual exam before.
That's too funny. lol. My wife echos your statement. And for the record, I've never had a problem with my cervix. I don't understand, and maybe I'm feeling my age, but do girls this age really have to worry about this? I'm all for protecting our children, but this is a shock to me. I guess the question for me is where have I been? I dunno'. I only have two sons, but I was very strict on this subject. They both will tell you that I was firm about pre-marital sex, and that they had better treat a lady like a lady period. I think it's paid off, as they are ok in that area to this day. They both knew that their derrieres would have landed on their shoulder blades if I caught them doing something like this. But if this will save lives, I guess we should do it?
Red, hate to be the one to break this to you, but studies indicate that HPV is incredibly wide-spread in today's generation. It causes warts in the personal area.
And yes, it can cause cervical cancer down the line. Not a good thing to get, as you can imagine.
If I had a daughter, I would get her vaccinated. I believe it's possible that a guy could be a carrier and not even know he has it, like other viruses.
Better safe than sorry.
There are more causes to cervical cancer than just this virus, so getting the vacc. isn't a guarentee you won't get cervical cancer. Grandmother, aunt, and mother all had cervical cancer without having HPV. I have had a biopsy too, negative even though the doctor said she was sure it was cancer (Power of prayer but that's off topic) Not sure using a new vaccination on my daughter is such a hot idea, me, no problem. My kid??? What if there are side effects they aren't aware of yet? I'll sit back and wait for more details, thank you very much.
I do know what you mean. As I said, if they're sure it's a safe vaccination, I would have it done. I understand your concerns, believe me. I know there are children who have been harmed by some older vaccines already. It's a hard choice, sometimes.. to know what's right for your child. I had my son fully vaccinated, and we were fortunate that nothing went amiss. I know there are others who haven't been as lucky. It's a tough call.
Ok, maybe I shouldn't have jumped on the band wagon so soon, but the inference that because a vaccination is for an STD somehow it's wrong to get it for your child offended me a little. You can get an STD from rape.
It seems like a smart Idea 40-60 million people in the country have HPV (their are some 60 types) vacinating at a young age simply ensures, lets hope that they haven't been exposed. If it saves lives and reduces the number of infections go for it .
I totally agree AFTER they make sure its safe.
Autisim is on the rise across the country. Science shows that a probable cause is heavy metal poisoning like mercury. Pregnant women are warned NOT to eat one than one can of tuna a week because of the mercury levels in the fish. Guess what is part of the vaccinations our kids have been getting... thats right mercury. Theories are that some kids get a level of mercury that harms them while others are unhurt. Why is what they are studying now. They aren't using mercury anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I don't eat fish much anyway, and both of my kids got all their shots including the Hep B and chicken pox (dh never had them as a kid could kill him to get them now). All I'm saying is that there are side effects to things that we... that doctors don't know about. I want more studies done before my kids get them.
I have been trying to find out if the fresh tuna that sushi chefs use for their maki contains the same mercury.
I LOVE salt-water fish but limit my consumption due to concerns about my future efforts toward contributing to the human race. Once that's out of the way I'll probably eat a tuna sandwich every day and sushi every night. :)
I'm glad they have changed their methods of vaccination!!!! I wonder, though, how the vaccinations they gave me as a child may affect my children. Mercury never leaves your system, right?
Right oh, Catherine. Can't tell you anything about sushi. Maybe your doctor can. I LOVE tuna, haddock and lobster. Not a big seafood eater, myself.
I wouldn't worry too much. I ate a lot of tuna even throughout pregnancy... before they came out with warnings. My kids had all the vaccines too an had no problems. My guess is that there is more involved than just mercury, but it is a contributing factor so why take unecessary risks. Hence they took it out of the vaccines.
I hope this makes you feel better. Kids are miracles. Two half cells join into one and nine months later you have a human being... it's awe inspiring.
[size=18]Proposal requires vaccine for girls[/size]
By ANN S. KIM, Staff Writer
[b]Friday, February 2, 2007[/b]
AUGUSTA - Maine lawmakers will debate whether to require girls entering sixth grade to have been immunized against the human papilloma virus, a sexually transmitted infection that causes most cases of cervical cancer.
House Majority Whip Sean Faircloth, D-Bangor, proposed the legislation, which contains an opt-out provision for parents who don't want their children to receive the vaccine.
My sister was just telling me that she ran into a [i]twenty five year old[/i] woman at a party at Sugarloaf a couple of weeks ago who'd had to have some cancerous cells removed from her cervix. She doesn't know if that's the end of it, but the girl was saying that she wished she could somehow warn [i]every[/i] young girl. I hope she's OK.
Agatha...thanks for that post. Sounds like this could have helped her.
I found this information from Citizen Link helpful.
[i]I'll go out on a limb here and speculate that the point Agatha was making was that this young lady wishes she could warn every young girl about the dangers of being sold the bill of goods that sexual avtivity is not only somehow inevitable, but encouraged by the Britanny Spears culture of early trampdom.[/i]
[quote]"The reality is that some girls will become sexually active," Sean Faircloth said.[/quote]
[quote][url=http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110009381]"Look at how different health decisions are valued,"[/url] the author (Daniel Crittenden) advises. "When Stacey avoids fatty foods she is being health conscious. . . . When she stays away from alcohol, she is being responsible and resisting her impulses. For all these she is endorsed for keeping long-term goals in mind instead of giving in to peer pressure and immediate gratification. But if she makes a conscious decision to delay sexual activity, she's simply 'not sexually active'--given no praise or endorsement."[/quote]
Dist...there is nothing wrong with that also...However, I have an aquaintance who did not engage in any sexual activity prior to her marriage and had to deal with this issue also.
At the risk of sidetracking an important thread, I wish people like Sean Faircloth would gain enough humility to reverse this thinking...
"House Majority Whip Sean Faircloth, D-Bangor, proposed the legislation, which contains an opt-out provision for parents who don't want their children to receive the vaccine."
His logic assumes that the State knows best and that the burden to think otherwise is on the parents. I would much rather see "opt-in" provisions for the long list of parenting activities being done by public schools.
That would indeed be preferable if employed in several arenas.
It would be the equivalent of providing a permission slip for your child to go on a field trip. Can you imagine a parent telling the school, "Yes, please teach my kid about sex in grade ___?" or "Yes, teach my kid about drugs this semester."
My hunch is that these programs would largely dry up through lack of business, and many of these social ills that are being taught to our youth would slowly diminish.
People are fooling themselves if they think that all this "education" is working. Since the onset of early childhood sexual education, the instance of young people engaging in sexual activity has only increased.
I would wish this would be a parental discussion with their kids. Again, I am no doctor...but it is my understanding that you can get these cancerous cells without having sex.
If there was a shot that could safely protect my child from this cancer...I personally would have her get the shot. My question is about the mercury in the shot..and the types of cancer this protects from.
How do they know the vaccine itself isn't harmful?
When my son was a tiny baby, he had the usual, required DPT vaccine. The same day when I was nursing him, he had a siezure. I called the pediatrician who said, it's the P in the DPT that causes that, so from now on we will give him just the diptheria and tetanus and skip the pertussus vaccine. Great. Who knows what damage was caused by that siezure.
I had a theory when they were babies that if they were suffieciently nurtured and bonded with their parents, my kids wouldn't be "needy" when they were adolescents, and they wouldn't be at risk for getting into sex too early.
To give all 11 year olds a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease implies that there aren't a skintillion million other sexually transmitted diseases lurking. It looks like a solution but it's not really.
Much of the information you're looking for can be found in the following previous thread:
[url=http://www.asmainegoes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=372023&highlight=hpv#37... NH to Offer Girls Free Cervical Cancer Vaccine [/url] in particular,
[url=http://www.asmainegoes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=371972&highlight=hpv#37... reply[/url] which contains info regarding strains of HPV associated with cancer. There's also a discussion of the [url=http://www.asmainegoes.com/forum/search.php?mode=results]mercury/thimero... in vaccinations.
PS - I'm only doing this to save reposting the information, not to go off topic from Bob Emrich's latest post regarding Sean Faircloth, etc. :wink:
LMD...thank you. I will read the information. I think we can all agree we want our kids safe. It is a personal decision...I don't think it should be mandatory at this time.
Typical feel-good government. "Here, this is mandatory, but you can also opt out if you prefer."
What's the point? Why not just make the vaccine available, disseminate the information, and let every parent decide for themselves?