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Here is another incident of

Here is another incident of the police being out of control and putting innocent people at risk. Mob mentality seemed to take over.
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/05/06/police-shooting-frenzy-raises-conce...

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Do you think any cop had a

Do you think any cop had a moment of regret for killing an innocent, unarmed man in this situation?

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Awesome! CBS hired an

Excellent post, Gaffer! Nice to see the manatee plates have paid off. Looks like CBS hired one as a crime analyst.

No, Tom. Cop base + SUV + munitions + OT + paid details @ 2 x OT + + + = I'll shoot the f**kers before I'll trade down.

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Washington man beaten to

Washington man beaten to death by police as he cried for help in front of witnesses

"I knew last night they were gonna kill that man," said one eyewitness.

Posted on May 17, 2014 by Site Staff in News

UNIVERSITY PLACE, WA — A man having a mental episode was brutally beaten to death with flashlights, batons, and tasers as horrified onlookers watched. Witnesses and video confirm the man was crying out for help as repeated blows from police officers fell upon him in a darkened parking lot.

Police were called to the parking lot of an apartment complex on Sunday, May 11th, to talk to a man who appeared to be having a delusional episode. That man was 44-year-old Ron Hillstrom.

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/ron-hillstrom/

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...I wonder will it

...I wonder will it eventually devolve to a point where the only safe response to a police officer showing up on your property is to immediately throw open the front door and lay face down with your feet pointed towards the door and your hands clasped firmly behind your head until the "peace officer" tells you it okay to move... ~johnw

It's getting to that point now, John.

911 dialed, police told not to come

"The man was barely breathing and he reported it to 911 as a medical emergency, but specifically told the dispatcher that police officers were not allowed."

I think people are starting to get the hint.

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Did he really think his drugs

Did he really think his drugs he OD'd wouldn't be reported by EMT? just kidding!

Of course if he needs CPR and the nearest giver is a police officer ,well SOL for him !

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The fatal shooting of a

The fatal shooting of a fellow trooper was "at the forefront" of Michigan State Police Trooper Timothy Wagner's mind last month when he pulled his handgun and pointed it at an 18-year-old woman during a traffic stop near Sturgis.

Recording captures traffic stop when officer pull gun on teen-age girl

Holy cow, if he's that nervous when he has to face the public, maybe he should just stay home. I don't feel safer with that guy out there.

Oddly, in this case, if he "felt his life was in danger", he could have killed the woman in her car, and may even have been legally justified in doing so. Time and time again, police "investigations" have found in favor of police officers who have killed unarmed (and even innocent) civilians who were reaching for cell phones, wallets - and even only making "furtive moves".

one point during this exchange she apologized to the officer about scaring him

You don't have to make his stuff up. Remember, it's not the cop's job to make you feel safe. It's your job to make the cop feel safe.

Notice the cop's rationale - that he "followed her for two miles" before she pulled over.

The driver pulls over to the shoulder about 45 seconds after Wagner made the U-turn and about 35 seconds after he activated his lights and siren.

Two miles in 35 seconds? Well, she was either going over two hundred miles per hour - or, gosh, the cop was lying. It's kind of sad how the knee-jerk reaction of police nowadays is to start lying to justify themselves.

But, no, it's the bad old public's fault for not having a good impression of these guys. If the citizens would just shut up and submit, then the officers' job would be so much better.

I don't blame the cops for hating civilians, those people are making life hard on them.

He asked Trooper Riley about the situation and officer Reihe asked Trooper Riley about the situation and Riley explained to him he heard the radio traffic and that the traffic stop took place because of the driver attempting to flee.

Nope, no institutional credibility problem here. The problem must be me.

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It's all fun and games until

It's all fun and games until the video shows up:

In his report, Fonseca wrote “I attempted to video and audio tape the transaction but due to malfunctioning video equipment no video was recorded.”

But unbeknownst to Fonseca, 47, Granison had video cameras trained on his driveway. The footage showed Fonseca never bought the drugs from him.

Palm Beach County sheriff’s agent arrested, accused of lying about drug buy

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A 19-month-old boy critically

A 19-month-old boy critically injured when a police device was tossed into his bed has a 50 percent chance of surviving, his parents said today.

But a northeast Georgia sheriff defends the officers’ actions, calling it a tragic accident.

Toddler critically injured by ‘flash bang’ during police search

The guy they were looking for wasn't there, and they had no idea who WAS in the house. But they send in a SWAT team on a no-knock warrant, blasting away with deadly incendiaries, possibly killing a baby by throwing a flashbang into his crib.

No, no gross negligence here.

Morons.

“We have nothing to do with this ( drugs),” father Bounkham “Bou” Phonesavanh said.

Well, that's too bad, buddy, but the officer was afraid. That gave him a licence to kill your baby.

Terrell said he contacted the GBI, but was told no further investigation is needed.

Yes, we had an investigation, and it cleared the officers. Now suck it up, loser.

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A man holding a pellet gun

A man holding a pellet gun that looked like an assault rifle was shot and killed by police

The officers ordered the man to lower the weapon, when he didn't, both officers fired.

Man armed with pellet gun shot & killed by police

This is one of those stories that screams at you: Police screw up.

We're supposed to bel;eive, time and time again, that citizens going about their business DELIBERATELY PROVOKE police into killing them. "Well, it was his decision, he brought it upon himself, he didn't follow police instructions."

I don't buy it. I don't care what the "investigation" reveals, it's a rigged game from the get go. This excuse is a crock.

Following the shooting, two weapons were recovered at the scene. Both proved to actually be pellet guns.

At this time police are unsure what the connection may be between the two suspects.

Ummm... Maybe they were playing "airsoft"?

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There can be no excuse

There can be no excuse whatsoever for this type of negligence. It is obvious that this house was not under surveillance. Nor did police conduct even the most cursory form of preliminary investigation. They simply relied on an informant. "Claimed" that a police officer had bought drugs there. If he had bought drugs there and he is an officer is supposed to observe and Know who is living there and what there involvement is. Every officer involved in this preplanned assault is guilty in my opinion to the fullest extent of the law. They should be treated no different than the Boston bombers in this instance. They acted exactly like the terrorists and entered in the same manner of a thief in the night.

I shouldn't wonder that the officers are "devastated" they might even be placed on a fully paid vacation for the brave efforts in subduing this dangerous 19 month old drug dealer. This is a prime example as to why "no knock " raids must be banned.

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It's all fun and games until

It's all fun and games until the video turns up:

Later, police went to a prosecutor, and a case was presented to a grand jury, with Klyzek being indicted for aggravated battery of a police officer, the lawsuit said. The charge was dismissed when prosecutors saw the video, the lawsuit said.

Store video captured Chicago police brutality, hate crime, lawsuit says

Eventually, the cops seem to realize they're on camera. The lawsuit claims officers tried to look for the recording, but didn't find it because the video was stored off-site.

Chicago Police Brutality Lawsuit Claims Woman Was Physically And Verbally Assaulted (VIDEO)

Unlike Las Vegas COSTCO, where the video was stored on a hard drive ON SITE, this video went to a safe off-site location. Good thing for the store owner it did!

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This was 2010 in Detroit:http

This was 2010 in Detroit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=shxim8Lgkds

Perhaps this is one of the reasons Portland lost James Craig to Detroit. I wish Police Chief Craig all the best.

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A 70-year-old man claims he

A 70-year-old man claims he was severely beaten by a pair of cops after he stopped on a Texas road because he fell into diabetic shock.

Thomas Mathieu said he only remembers pulling over in a turning lane in San Antonio before the Jan. 13 scuffle with police that put him in a hospital with three broken ribs and several cuts and bruises to his body.

It wasn’t until a minute later that an officer asked Mathieu if he was a diabetic and learned that he was suffering from a medical condition.

Cops vs. diabetics

But.... Let's not jumo to any conclusion - let's "wait for the investigation.

Wait for it... wait for it..."

The officers were, of course, cleared of any wrongdoing.

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Regardless of the man's

Regardless of the man's condition, HE WAS 70!

And police wonder why they are not liked and people think the system is corrupt? Really?

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http://www.policestateusa.com

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/jonathan-ayers/

This story is about the killing of Jonathan Ayers, the pastor of Shoal Creek Baptist Church in Lavonia, Georgia. On September 1, 2009, Pastor Ayers, 28, was driving and recognized a woman walking that he had known for a number of years, Johanna Kayla Jones Barrett. Ms. Barrett had no permanent home and was living with her boyfriend at the Relax Inn, an extended-stay motel.

I know this has already been reported but the comments at the bottom of the page are something else also.

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/24/a_swat_team_blew_a_hole_in_my_2_year_old...

After the SWAT team broke down the door, they threw a flashbang grenade inside. It landed in my son’s crib.

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Massachusetts SWAT teams

Massachusetts SWAT teams claim they’re private corporations, immune from open records laws

By Radley Balko June 26 Follow @radleybalko

As part of the American Civil Liberties Union’s recent report on police militarization, the Massachusetts chapter of the organization sent open records requests to SWAT teams across that state. It received an interesting response.

As it turns out, a number of SWAT teams in the Bay State are operated by what are called law enforcement councils, or LECs. These LECs are funded by several police agencies in a given geographic area and overseen by an executive board, which is usually made up of police chiefs from member police departments. In 2012, for example, the Tewksbury Police Department paid about $4,600 in annual membership dues to the North Eastern Massachusetts Law Enforcement Council, or NEMLEC. (See page 36 of linked PDF.) That LEC has about 50 member agencies. In addition to operating a regional SWAT team, the LECs also facilitate technology and information sharing and oversee other specialized units, such as crime scene investigators and computer crime specialists.

Some of these LECs have also apparently incorporated as 501(c)(3) organizations. And it’s here that we run into problems. According to the ACLU, the LECs are claiming that the 501(c)(3) status means that they’re private corporations, not government agencies. And therefore, they say they’re immune from open records requests. Let’s be clear. These agencies oversee police activities. They employ cops who carry guns, wear badges, collect paychecks provided by taxpayers and have the power to detain, arrest, injure and kill. They operate SWAT teams, which conduct raids on private residences. And yet they say that because they’ve incorporated, they’re immune to Massachusetts open records laws. The state’s residents aren’t permitted to know how often the SWAT teams are used, what they’re used for, what sort of training they get or who they’re primarily used against.

(Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/06/26/massachusetts...

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If they are 501(c)(3) then

If they are 501(c)(3) then their records, including their form 990s, are open for public inspection.

If they don't follow the disclosure rules, they can get the 501(c)(3) status revoked - which makes them "C Corporations" and they get to file INCOME TAX returns and pay income tax.

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Again....Hmmmm I wonder will

Again....Hmmmm I wonder will it eventually devolve to a point where the only safe response to a police officer showing up on your property is to immediately throw open the front door and lay face down with your feet pointed towards the door and your hands clasped firmly behind your head until the "peace officer" tells you it okay to move...
Especially if they roll in in one of their newly acquired armored assault vehicles and jump out replete in body armor, dark glasses, their pants tucked into their combat boots.... and a semi automatic assault rifle in hand....... "But officer I only called because my kitten wouldn't come down...."

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Police Kill Retreating,

Police Kill Retreating, Arthritic Dog Running Back to His Home Full of Kids
in News / by Sean Brown / on June 28, 2014 at 1:25 pm /

A West Virginia family is mourning the loss of their beloved pet after police shot and killed him while searching for a suspect near their home, according to the Charleston Daily Mail.

32-year-old Ginger Sweat was at home on Tuesday afternoon with her two children, aged 18 and 7 months, when she saw a pack of police cruisers speed by her home. When she looked outside to see what was going on, she saw eight officers decked out in tactical gear coming out of the woods with a barking police dog on a leash.

Her six-year-old Basset hound/beagle mix, Willy Pete, was laying on the front porch, but he took an interest when he saw the commotion and went to check it out. She was still in the home when she saw one of the State Troopers raise his weapon at her dog, who she said was never aggressive towards anybody and suffered from arthritis in his rear legs.

Police Kill Retreating, Arthritic Dog Running Back to His Home Full of Kids

Sweat said she went running out of the home “jumping up and down screaming ‘don’t shoot my dog, he won’t bite, just let me get him in the house.”

At this point the officer fired a shot at her dog, she said, but he missed. This caused Willy Pete to tuck his tail and run for dear life back to the safety of his home.

“He ran towards me with desperation in his eyes,” she said. “They fired again in my direction. In the direction of my home where my kids were.”

She said that the officer fired three more shots at Willy Pete as he ran back towards her home, hitting him three times. After he was hit, he ran to the back of their home and hid behind the air conditioning unit.

“I watched my dog struggle and then die,” she said. “I collapsed in a puddle in the floor, screaming and crying. I watched that dog born and I watched him die.”

One of the officers went to her home after the shooting and spoke with her, saying “Ma’am we’re dog people, too, but we couldn’t let them fight.” He then apologized to her and offered to bury Willy Pete for her.

State Police spokesman Lt. Michael Baylous said that they’re still searching for the suspect, however, he declined to comment on the dog being shot.

“It’s counterproductive and it’s only serving to fan the tension,” Baylous said. “We have had several people responding to us in a very irrational way and we feel that it’s counterproductive to comment further.”

A Facebook page called Justice for Willy Pete was started to support Sweat and her tragic loss. As of this writing it had just over 4,100 likes.

For some unexplained reason , I do not believe that the officer that committed this crime will live a long and healthy life.

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Again....Hmmmm I wonder will

Again....Hmmmm I wonder will it eventually devolve to a point where the only safe response to a police officer showing up on your property is to immediately throw open the front door and lay face down with your feet pointed towards the door and your hands clasped firmly behind your head until the "peace officer" tells you it okay to move...

No there is another response and it will soon happen...At some point they will have to live in "Green Zones" to feel safe....

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Video released in arrest of

Video released in arrest of ASU professor

by Kristine Harrington
Posted on June 28, 2014 at 8:03 AM

Raw video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HWQ8pb2-2d8

TEMPE, Ariz. -- An Arizona State University professor who was arrested by campus police last month is claiming self-defense, and the incident is getting a whole lot more attention now that 3TV has obtained video of it.

“The reason I’m talking to you right now is because you are walking in the middle of the street,” Officer Stewart Ferrin said to ASU professor Dr. Ersula Ore after stopping her near campus. She was crossing College Avenue, just south of Fifth Street.

But in less than a minute, the conversation quickly began to escalate.

“Let me see your ID or you will be arrested for failing to provide ID,” Ferrin said.

“Are you serious?” Ore asked.

“Yes, I am serious. That is the law,” Ferrin replied.

According to police reports, Ore said she was trying to cross College Avenue in the same fashion as several others trying to avoid construction.

“I never once saw a single solitary individual get pulled over by a cop for walking across a street on a campus, in a campus location. Everybody has been doing this because it is all obstructed. That’s the reason why,” Ore said to the officer. “But you stop me in the middle of the street to pull me over and ask me, 'Do you know what this is? This is a street.' ”

“Are you aware that this is a street?” Ferrin asked.

“Let me finish,” Ore said.

“OK, put your hands behind your back,” Ferrin said.

“Don't touch me,” Ore said. “Get your hands off me.”

read more at: http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/ASU-professor-arrested-on-campus-accu...

And I'll bet that she is an Obama supporter, an anti gun nut, liberal, for the children, LBGT activist as well. The cops are the only ones to be trusted with guns until they actually ask for her ID then it's racist thuggery because well, "Do you know who I am?"

No ma am, that's why I asked for ID. And I'll bet that if she had simply provided her ID the officer would simply have advised her of the lack of safety in jaywalking and that would have been that.

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......."Massachusetts SWAT

......."Massachusetts SWAT teams claim they’re private corporations, immune from open records laws"......

If employees of Monsanto Corp or Boeing Corp, smashed their way into my home, in the middle of the night, under Maine law I have the right to kill anyone who is forcibly entering my home.

So If employees of an "law enforcement 'corporation'" bust into my home, in the middle of the night, I should have the same rights!

The cops do everything they can, including prohibiting video taping their actions, in many parts of the country. They ought to be ashamed......but they aren't. Photograph the over the top officers, every chance you get, it's the only way we have to hold them accountable.

This is rapidly getting out of hand, at the behest of Washington DC who is funding this disgrace. Shortly there will be more ""vegas style" events and these fools will never figure out why the citizens have turned on them. They have done it to themselves!

WC

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It's all fun and games until

It's all fun and games until the video shows up:

As Kincade - who has no use of his legs and is confined to a motorized wheelchair - tries to motor around Davidson, who is standing in the way of his wheelchair, he appears to bump the officer's foot.

At that point, Davidson is clearly seen violently pushing the disabled man out of his wheelchair and onto the street.

Kincade was then arrested for battery on a police officer after he was taken away from the scene on a stretcher.

Police lieutenant who pushed paraplegic man out of his wheelchair gets to keep his job, despite his department's entire command staff recommending he be fired

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It's all fun and games until

It's all fun and games until the video shows up:

A cellphone video depicting a California Highway Patrol office punching a woman along the side of a freeway Tuesday evening has the agency investigating accusations of excessive force.

In the video posted to YouTube, an officer is seen punching a woman on the ground more than 11 times in the face. She does not appear to resist, although what started the confrontation is unclear

VIDEO: Calif. officer beating woman on roadside

And of course the cop-speak:

"the pedestrian become physically combative.." "a physical altercation ensued as the pedestrian continued to resist arrest..."

I dunno. Looks like a beat-down to me.

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Being stopped for a minor

Being stopped for a minor traffic violation has now become a cause for apprehension for many. The police car pulled up and parked at angle as the officer walks toward the vehicle unsnapping their holster.....Maybe the only safe response will be to automatically put your head on the steering wheel and your out stretched hands on the dash until the peace officer tells you to move....

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Interesting johnw, and maybe

Interesting johnw, and maybe you're right. To paraphrase Old Lodge Skins in Thomas Berger's novel Little Big Man, maybe "It's 'not' a good day to die."

Years ago now, having pissed off Detective David Gordon of the Kennebunk Police Department I saw the asshole going south on Rt. 1 in the down town area. He made a u-turn and fell in a couple of cars back. Soon there was another cruiser. And at the Rt.35 intersection 2 more were there in line behind me. All 4 of the blues came on and everyone, including me, pulled over across from the catholic church.

Watched then Sargent Nick Higgins walk to my car in the rear view mirror. Kept my hands high on the steering wheel in plain view, was ordered out and patted down, handcuffed and placed in the back seat of his squad car and hauled to the station.

Wayne Etheridge booked me. Told him next time call me, I'll turn my self in

This bastard Gordon was out of control, on a vendetta, and his Chief did nothing to reign him in. Neither did the town manager or the selectmen, Says a lot about the ruling parties there.

The new "Waterhouse pavillon" should be attributed to Sanford Pets, he funded it!

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I think that the police

I think that the police receive a lot of federal funding now, someone could verify that, and as a result they are no longer accountable or care about the concerns of the communities they serve. It's hard to otherwise understand the disconnect.

A geat example of how governments have become completely detached from the public is in the area of red-light cameras. When these come up for vote, they are usually resoundingly defeated. If the government truly represents the people, then why do these bureacrats keep pushing them?

And surveillence has taken on political overtones - Snowden claims that the government spends more time looking at regular citizens than it does terrorist threats. And that is why the Chechen brothers were able to murder American without interference while Homeland Security was fretting about Tea Party members.

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Tom C

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Usually in response to the need for addressing a safety problem
and the equal cry not to hire more police !

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And the bureacrats refuse to

Who is "calling for more police" other than Democrat union hacks?

I think most citizens think there are more than enough police, thank you very much.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand - in the department of Police Shooting Innocent Civilians, Charlotte is making a run for the money:

For the second time this year, the city of Charlotte has settled a lawsuit arising from a police shooting – this one involving a 15-year-old who was wounded in 2010 as he came to the aid of his injured mother.

Well, one time would just be a greivous mistake.

But, wait - there's more:

In January, the city paid $700,000 to the family of a cellphone tower repairman fatally shot on the job in 2006 after police were dispatched to a potential break-in.

And the bureacrats refuse to accept any responsibility:

the city said in a statement at the time that it was “clear” the repairman was doing his job but that the police officer who shot him had acted “appropriately.”

City of Charlotte settles lawsuit over police shooting for $115,000

Yikes.

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