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Tom C
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Trooper Anthony Piercy, who

Trooper Anthony Piercy, who arrested 20-year-old Iowan Brandon Ellingson and placed him in handcuffs minutes before he drowned, lacked enough of both on the water, they say. As evidence, they point to his use of the wrong type of life jacket for a handcuffed suspect; how he seemed, according to witnesses, to rush the arrest after one of Ellingson’s friends jumped in the water; and his reported high rate of speed for water conditions on a busy Saturday afternoon at the start of the peak boating season.

Trooper training criticized following the Lake of the Ozarks death of Brandon Ellingson

A drunk boater is arrested by a state trooper on water duty, falls off the boat and drowns.

The officer claims the fellow voluntarily jumped off the boat. Witness accounts differ from the officer's report.

And although Piercy’s boat was equipped with multiple cameras that are supposed to record arrests, patrol officials said late last week that no video footage exists.

Not all patrol boats have cameras, but Piercy’s did.

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A GD LAPD cop stalking small

A GD LAPD cop stalking small children in California got caught by one of the kids father and got taken down (got the crap kicked out of him) by the father. He was off duty and carrying a loaded firearm at the time.

Hear the news report : https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hxO8HOrDo0s

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Found this tonight about the

Found this tonight about the kid who supposedly shot the firearms instructor with an UZI. Certainly worth a look. This guy has done a detailed background check and found.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs9dmxnmeQg

Take a look

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"Nobody is innocent. We just

"Nobody is innocent. We just haven't got around to catching them yet." the Government

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This guy has done a detailed

This guy has done a detailed background check and found.....

Yikes. I don't know about that.

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As a juror, whom are you

As a juror, whom are you likely to believe: the alleged criminal in an orange jumpsuit or two well-groomed police officers in uniforms who just swore to God they’re telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but? As one of my colleagues recently put it, “Everyone knows you have to be crazy to accuse the police of lying.”

But are police officers necessarily more trustworthy than alleged criminals? I think not.

Why Police Lie Under Oath

While the police blame a public for not respecting them as much, much of the problem the police have brought upon themselves. Whether they add a few miles an hour onto a speeding ticket to reduce the chance of a challenge, or fabricate a story about someone "making a furtive move" before being shot, the public, in general, is learning to trust them less - based on repeated experience.

In this era of mass incarceration, the police shouldn’t be trusted any more than any other witness, perhaps less so.

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Is that a link Tom ?

Is that a link Tom ?

I cannot get it to work.

Tom C
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Oops - try it now.

Oops - try it now.

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Thank you Tom .

Thank you Tom .
I didn't bother to register ,as I view NYT the same as you do PPH !

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Hmmm... I was able to acccess

Hmmm... I was able to acccess it before directly, but now it tells me I need to register.

Oh well!

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A cyclist has died after a

A cyclist has died after a police car struck him and backed-up over him say witnesses - before an officer exited the vehicle and placed him under arrest while he was 'spitting blood'.

According to those who saw the incident on Wednesday afternoon in Quebec City, Guy Blouin, 48, was intercepted by the police cruiser going the wrong way up a one way street.

Cyclist died after 'he was hit by police car which then reversed over him before officer tried to ARREST him'

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State Trooper crashes into

State Trooper crashes into TRAIN while on computer.

Nothing to see here folks....

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From Abacus' link:

From Abacus' link:

"You could say it was driver inattention," Trooper N.W. Campbell said. "That's what you would say for anyone else."

Anyone else?

Campbell said alcohol and drugs were not a factor but made it clear that Haines was at fault.

"We want to be completely transparent about what happened," Campbell said. "We have no intention of hiding anything. It was just a normal accident. A train can't run a stop sign."
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C'mon! It was in the line of duty! F-f-f-f-fault?

20 vested years in and this 'Master' trooper may have to swallow the pill and look for a double dipping pension opportunity with the feds. Pension and cruiser tabs to the master's servants.

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It wasn't too long ago that a

It wasn't too long ago that a truck hit a train in Bangor/Herman. I wonder if, in each instance, The motor vehicle insurance was made to pay for the trains lost time and damages. It would be interesting to see if the double standard exists in that venue.

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A grand jury in Tarrant

A grand jury in Tarrant County, Texas has decided not to indict the rookie police officer who shot dead a homeowner while investigating a burglary at the wrong address.

Rookie cop who shot 72-year-old dead in his home while investigating burglary at the WRONG address will not be charged

This is a perfect example of an (1) innocent civilian, (2) going about lawful business was (3) murdered by a hyped-up cop.

Of course, the cops have a different explaination. They say the victim "refused to drop the gun and follow police instructions." We're supposed to believe that the citizen DELIBERATELY did not follow police instructions.

One of the Fort Worth police officers involved in the fatal shooting of an armed homeowner while at the wrong house during a burglary call in May was fired for filing a false sworn statement about an August arrest, police said Thursday.

Officer Benjamin Hanlon was terminated on Tuesday for lying about finding drugs on a man during an Aug. 9 traffic stop, the department said. In fact, officers at the jail recovered the drugs.

Fort Worth Officer Involved in Shooting of Homeowner Fired

Nope, no credibility problem here.

I don't know what is worse - the negligent murder, or the dishonest arrogance.

Anyway, cops sit in speed traps in their little $35,000 SUVs, wearing combat uniforms in order to to hand out traffic tickets, and then complain to other cops about how the public is losing respect for them.

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Again....Hmmmm I wonder will

Again....Hmmmm I wonder will it eventually devolve to a point where the only safe response to a police officer showing up on your property is to immediately throw open the front door and lay face down with your feet pointed towards the door and your hands clasped firmly behind your head until the "peace officer" tells you it okay to move...
Especially if they roll in in one of their newly acquired armored assault vehicles and jump out replete in body armor, dark glasses, their pants tucked into their combat boots.... and a semi automatic assault rifle in hand....... "But officer I only called because my kitten wouldn't come down...."

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Didn't help this guy, he didn

Didn't help this guy, he didn't call the cops and had no idea they were there.

Just sitting around in your pajamas, see someone wandering around the back yard, and bang, you're dead.

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Court Denies Qualified

Court Denies Qualified Immunity For Police Who SWAT-Stormed Florida Barber Shop To Conduct Licensing ‘Inspection’

September 18, 2014 by Ben Bullard
Court Denies Qualified Immunity For Police Who SWAT-Stormed Florida Barber Shop To Conduct Licensing ‘Inspection’
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Law enforcement officers who conducted a warrantless SWAT-style raid on an Orlando barber shop, ostensibly to help inspectors conduct a routine occupational licensing exam, violated the proprietors’ 4th Amendment rights and are not protected from personal liability under the qualified immunity doctrine.

So ruled the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit in Atlanta on Tuesday, harshly condemning Orange County, Florida, officers for their 2010 raid of the Strictly Skillz barber shop — a staged event the court compared to “a scene right out of a Hollywood movie.” That’s how the court began its
44-page ruling: http://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/201314092.pdf

http://personalliberty.com/court-denies-qualified-immunity-police-swat-s...

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harshly condemning Orange

harshly condemning Orange County, Florida, officers for their 2010 raid of the Strictly Skillz barber shop —Rebecca that plays like an echo of one of obama;'s "strongly worded statements' or "strong protests" it means nothing.I'm not saying that the court ruling wasn't correct but were there real consequences for the officers and administration involved ....I truly doubt it.

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From Las Vegas - the cesspool

From Las Vegas - the cesspool of corruption and sin presided over by Harry Reid:

... a poster child for wrongful shooting deaths and million-dollar payouts, a driving force behind sweeping reforms to the agency’s deadly force policies.

In other cities, an officer who kills an unarmed man under suspicious circumstances and is accused of lying to cover his tracks might be prosecuted. In Las Vegas, Yant kept his job.

And he’s taken on a role that will make him more influential at Metro.

Las Vegas cop behind controversial killing now influential union leader

As you may recall, Yant is the fellow that blew Trevor Coles brains out as Trevor knelt in his bathroom.

Well, that's what the evidence said. Yany's testimony didn't match the evidence. When challenged on that he replied:

“I’m not a forensic scientist,” he said. “I’m not a physicist. I don’t know. That’s what I saw.”

Evidence be d@mned. There was an INVESTIGATION! And it found in favor of the officer! Cop-haters, take THAT!

Yant's career is s series of questionable shooting and discounted testimony.

Who better to protect police who shoot innocent civilians then one who has gotten away with it several times?

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Please notice the date of the

Please notice the date of the filing in the Court report. It is 09/16/2014. It is my fervent hope that the attorney's involved and their clients pursue this vigorously and are ultimately vindicated and rewarded richly at the expense of these thugs personally, to the point where they lose everything they have ever worked for in their lives. They have no problem whatsoever denying Average Joe his life or livelihood and I would have no problem with turnabout being fair play. We all have the right to expect the utmost of respect and virtue from our law enforcement community and when that does not happen they should expect a vengeful wrath on the part of the public.

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Would have been better for

Would have been better for the cop's career had he killed the guy, rather then left him alive to complain:

SC State Trooper Shoots Unarmed Man - Officer Fired from Job

You'll notice the cop (1) asks him for his licence, (2) The citizen goes to get his licence, (3) the cops screams unintelligible commands at the confused citizen and the (4) shoots the dazed citizen as he tries to comply.

Good thing there was a video - and it shows exactly WHY the Las Vegas Metro Police erased the video of the Erik Scott killing - because the "he made a furtive movement" claims often fall apart when there is a video of the incident.

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Sean Groubert, 31, failed to follow protocol when he shot a motorist during a traffic stop in South Carolina.

Video shows South Carolina trooper shoot unarmed, cooperative man

Well, yes, protocal requires that the officers impound and erase any videos of the incident.

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However, his lawyer Barney Giese told WISTV.com that his client was pleaded not guilty to the charge, claiming that Groubert was justified in shooting Jones, who reached for his licence 'aggressively'.

Shocking moment police officer shoots unarmed driver after pulling him over for not wearing a seatbelt

Hey, who are you going to believe - a decorated officer of the law... or your own lying eyes?

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Anyway, BEFORE the videos were released the solicitor general was fully prepared to sweep it under the rug:

Johnson – who reviewed the recordings over the weekend – told SLED Chief Mark Keel that he believed Groubert’s use of force was warranted, describing the incident as a “clean shot.”

SC Highway Patrol Shooting Is About To Get Interesting …

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Tom C writes:

Tom C writes:

Would have been better for the cop's career had he killed the guy, rather then left him alive to complain.

My guess is that Levar Jones' feels he would be a lot better off not being dead. His family likely feels the same way. In the space of about five seconds this man is asked for his license - for no reason - and after trying to comply is shot at. And then he is shot at twice more with his hands up in the air, posing no possible threat.

And you think the cop would be better off to have killed him so Jones "couldn't complain"?

What kind of soulless bastard are you?

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PIA alert!

PIA alert!

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After watching yet another

After watching yet another dash cam, I'm glad I don't hunt with some leos. Damn you just shot my dog my boat and only crippled that duck. and this didn't happen in some salt marsh but at a busy convenience store and he presently might be applying for another job at another department. You really have to wonder if that LEO has an IQ of a donut?

"Learned my lesson" says Mr Trigger Happy and "I didn't get enuf trainen"

Gerald obviously Tom C was refering to the somewhat common practice, or apparently so, of police departments covering their own asses at the expense of mundanes. You know the scenario, we LEOs have to go home at night to our families and if you dart into you SUV when we ask for your license the wonder 9 comes out and goes bang bang bang bang until you hit the pavement, if others are hit, we are sorry, but we have to go home at night to our families.

You all are collateral damage, sorry. We have a tough job saving lives making sure every one is buckled up. Click it or ticket.

It would be funny if it wasn't true

Tom C

on Yants promotion for no part with his personal experience with police shootings.

Cole’s family later received a $1.7 million settlement from Metro, the highest single payment for a police shooting in the department’s history.

Now doesn't that just explain it all, Yant gets a promotion and the taxpayers get the shaft. well done well done

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What kind of soulless bastard

What kind of soulless bastard are you?

Gerald has a little trouble with irony, I guess.

And with reading comprehension as well, since he seems to be unable to put it into context with the rest of the post.

Anyway, 4 more years of Paul LePage will cheer Gerald up.

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:)

:)

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The disturbing part is,

The disturbing part is, Gerald, that there are far too many cops who believe exactly that, if you shoot, shoot to kill. And that is why there are so many cops killing unarmed citizens. It is a sad thing that it has come to this but lawyers are why things are what they are.

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The police officer who shot

The police officer who shot dead a young black man in a Walmart store in Ohio as he held an unloaded BB rifle had less than two weeks earlier received what prosecutors called a “pep talk” on how to deal aggressively with suspected gunmen.

Sean Williams and his colleagues in Beavercreek, a suburb of Dayton, were shown a slideshow invoking their loved ones and the massacres at Sandy Hook, Columbine and Virginia Tech while being trained on 23-24 July on confronting “active shooter situations”.

“If not you, then who?” officers were asked by the presentation,

A (sort of) defense of South Carolina state trooper Sean Groubert

Cops are fired up, hyped up, and told to think of every contact with the public as a deadly threat that calls for split second action - and then unleashed on the unsuspecting public.

A former South Carolina Highway Patrol trooper facing criminal charges in connection with shooting a driver in the Columbia area may have had post-traumatic stress disorder syndrome from a prior shooting incident,

Lawyer: Trooper in shooting may have PTSD

Actually, that was my guess after looking at some background of the incident - the cop had been involved in a prior shooting, and recently an SC trooper had been killed in a shooting incident. The guy was probably nervous, jazzed and on hair-trigger.

It's interesting how many of these incidents involved cops who have been involved in prior shootings.

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I have never been involved in

I have never been involved in a shooting incident...well, except for that time in Arizona when, as a 13 yr old, I was out hunting rabbits with a .22 on a ranch with a friend, near dusk, and as the young ranch foreman and his top hand drove up, with their dates, my friend told me to hide, hide, hide, as we were apparently not supposed to be there. So we hid., about 20 yards apart, face down behind whatever cover we could find in the Douglas, Arizona desert. Turns out the foreman and his friends were out to do some target practice. We didn't budge, we weren't seen, we were absolutely down range of their shooting, and that evening I learned what rounds sound like as they popped by my head. Once the shooters had shown off enough for their dates, they piled back into their pick up truck and left. And we decided to call our jack rabbit hunting efforts over for the day. God protects foolilsh teenagers...and foolish adults, as I learned later in life.

But, back to my main point. The South Carolina trooper who absolutely over reacted in the gas station/c-store shooting of the unarmed man he stopped, reminds me of a well learned lesson when I was a new Immigration Inspector in Calais, back in summer of 1974. Our procedure on the traffic line, outside, was to ask a specific series of questions of the driver and passengers in every vehicle, for the purpose of first determining their citizenship and then determining how long they had been in Canada and what they were bringing back with them that they had acquired in Canada. A car came up to where I was standing. I asked my questions, determined the answers were all appropriate, and was about to tell the driver he could go ahead, when he sort of smirked and thanked me. I asked him, "For what?" And he replied, that he was holding a microphone in his left hand (which I had not observed), and had recorded the entire conversation. Since I knew my questions and procedure were fine, I told him that was OK, and sent him on his way.

But, it shook me up that I was unaware of where his hands were while I was conducting the primary inspection. I quickly realized that if he had had a gun, and was intent on harming me, I would not have seen it coming. And I never, again, made that error. After that, every time I talked to someone in a vehicle, I made sure his or her hands were in plain sight...and if they weren't, I requested they put them on the steering wheel if driving, or where I could see them if they were a passenger.

No, I wasn't scarred for life. No, I don't have PTSD for that or any other reason. But I understand that a state trooper or any other law enforcement officer could be somewhat tightly strung if he or she had recently been involved in a shooting incident or a life threatening incident where a lesson on awareness was learned by the officer or trooper. That does not excuse an unjustified shooting, but it does help me to perhaps put it into more context for what might have been going on in the trooper's head at the time of the incident.

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