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[url=http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/031756.html] TPTSNBN [/url]

Doesn't have that quote.

Today's story on BIW getting the 3rd DG 1000 also is in conflict with the LSJ version. The LSJ version is far superior in both cases.

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I am not a fan of Lamarche or the casino. However, I heard Lamarche interviewed this morning on WGAN and I thought her explanation for her actions made sense and were well justified.

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Dan, can you expand on that a little for those of us who don't listen to WGAN? I'd be interested in hearing her rationale.

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It was that Seth Carey had not been honest with her. He did not tell her about his legal problems. When they came out, he promised to step aside and didn't. From her dealings with him, she does not believe that he has the integrity necessary to be the head of such a project. She still supports the idea but can't support him with him at the helm.

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She used the word “integrity” in the context of politics. I’m now a Pat fan. 8)

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Why should anybody be interested in anything Pat LaMarche says?

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Why should anybody be interested in what a screen named blogger has to say?

When someone demonstrates some principals and bails out of a job because of their own integrity is worth more then a pay check, I become interested in what they have to say.

Some should be inspired by this type of stand.

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Thank you, Dan. So she didn't mention who Carey is/was negotiating with to help finance the casino then. She was quoted in one of the stories yesterday as saying the negotiations had broken down, and that was one of the reasons she was leaving. As I understand it, he has to find a partner with gaming industry experience because he doesn't qualify for a gaming license.

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You nailed it. LaMarche is truly inspiring. That must be why she attracts such an outpouring of votes every time she runs for office.

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What’s inspiring is that vary few people make a stand based on principals anymore. Regardless of her past, it’s acceptable to reward ones choices in the present when praise is deserved. Set aside your differences for a moment and enjoy some faith in humanity, sometimes people will impress you as often as they will let you down.

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From: Dennis Bailey
Sept 27, 2008
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

YOU-TUBE AD AIMS TO TELL THE FACTS
ABOUT THE OXFORD COUNTY CASINO PROPOSAL

PORTLAND – With the Las Vegas-funded proponents of Question 2 spending close to $100,000 a week on television and radio commercials in Maine, CasinosNO! has begun spreading the facts about the Oxford County casino proposal by “word of mouse.”

The grassroots organization opposed to the expansion of casino gambling in Maine today posted an ad on YouTube that tells the other side of the story regarding Question 2.

The ad, which can be found [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWv5LixO6Bc]HERE[/url], is also posted on the CasinosNO! website and will be distributed to the group’s list of supporters to be forwarded on to their friends and colleagues. The ad points out that the casino proposal will lower the legal age to gamble to 19 and lower the legal age to work in a casino to 18. It will also grant the Las Vegas owner a 10-year monopoly on casinos in Maine and, like Hollywood Slots, will mostly attract patrons from Maine.

“The Oxford County casino is a good deal for Las Vegas, but a bad one for Maine,” said Dennis Bailey, executive director of CasinosNO! “We are going to be vastly outspent by Las Vegas in this campaign, but we’ve got the facts on our side. And with more and more people getting their news and information off the Internet, we’re confident that voters will get all the information they need to reject this latest casino scheme.”

Bailey said more YouTube ads concerning other aspects of Question 2 will be forthcoming.

CONTACT: Dennis Bailey, 207-749-4963

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Gambling now a perennial issue in Maine – and the reason? Money
It isn't big support here for casinos but rather outside money
pushing to enter the market, says an observer.

By MATT WICKENHEISER, Staff Writer September 28, 2008

Voters have gone to the polls and determined the fate of gambling proposals multiple times in the past five years and will do so again this November.

This year, they're voting on a citizen-initiated petition to legalize a casino in Oxford County...

But why has gambling become what's essentially a perennial issue, with plans constantly being proposed, working through the Legislature or going before voters?

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=212680&ac=PHnws

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Save the economy with GAMBLING.

LOL.

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Sept 29, 2008
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LAMARCHE IN RADIO INTERVIEW CALLS OXFORD COUNTY CASINO BILL A ‘MESS’

PORTLAND – In an interview Monday morning on WLOB/FOX 23, Pat LaMarche, spokesperson for the Oxford County casino bill, admitted that the referendum question that will go before voters in November is a “mess.”

During questioning about specific details of the bill, Lamarche said that if the bill is enacted the Legislature “is going to fix this mess.” (Listen to the interview here.)

“It’s astonishing that LaMarche and her bosses from Las Vegas are spending $1 million or more to convince voters to enact a law that they themselves call ‘a mess,’” said Dennis Bailey, executive director of CasinosNO!, the grassroots organization opposed to the expansion of casino gambling in Maine. “She’s doing a better job than I am to convince voters to reject Question 2.”

During the interview, LaMarche also went on at length claiming that the bill does not require the president of the casino to be a “voting member” of the boards and commissions that receive a slice of the casino revenues. In fact the bill specifically says the president of the Oxford County casino “must be appointed a voting member” of the programs and boards receiving an allocation from the casino.

LaMarche’s latest statements quickly became fodder for “The Daily Pat-Down” a compendium on the CasinosNO! website of LaMarche’s outrageous claims. (Click here.)

CONTACT: Dennis Bailey, 207-749-4963

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People,
Build the freakin casino, dont give me the gambling is bad garbage. We live in a country where we are suppose to have choice. A casino will bring tremendous job growth to an area of the state that The Bald One doesnt give a rip about. It will create JOBS.

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I can't wait till someone waves alot of cash in front of DB
and see him change sides in a heart beat!

This man has lost all credibility as far as I am concerned and
has done nothing but become a professional opposer!

When he supports one substanive idea/ project that will create
any form of economic activity with his own money I will give him
some until then nothing!

If it fails it fails just like all other businesses in a free enterprize system
but I have yet to see anything remotely near this that has a chance to
do anything in that area or anyother area.

If the lord was to return on the steps of Hollywood Slots at noon I am
sure DB would be against it!

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Casino referendum: Another pig with lipstick

This one is a real stinker.

The supporters of a proposed gambling complex in Oxford County not only want to include an unlimited number of slot machines and lower the gaming age from 21 to 19, but prevent any other casinos from opening up in Maine for at least 10 years.

[url=http://mikescolumn.blogspot.com/2008/09/casino-referendum-another-pig-wi...'s Column[/url]

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Oxford in running for casino, if it passes

By M. Dirk Langeveld , Staff Writer
Friday, October 3, 2008

OXFORD - Selectmen unanimously passed a resolution Thursday to support a casino and resort in town if the $150 million project is approved in a statewide referendum Nov. 4.

Members of Olympia Gaming of Las Vegas, developers for the proposed Oxford County casino project, made a presentation to the Board of Selectmen before it voted on the resolution.

http://www.sunjournal.com/index.php?t=3&storyid=285582

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From: Dennis Bailey
Subject: WARNING: CLYDE BARROW IS A SHILL FOR THE GAMBLING CAISINO INDUSTRY

Oct. 1, 2008
BACKGROUNDER

WARNING: CLYDE BARROW IS A SHILL FOR THE GAMBLING CASINO INDUSTRY

PORTLAND – The proponents of Question 2, the Oxford County casino, have enlisted the aid of Clyde Barrow, a political scientist at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, to make the case for their casino. An article by Barrow defending the Oxford County casino appeared in the Portland Press Herald last week, and Barrow is scheduled to meet with the Oxford County Commissioners next week along with the proponents of Question 2.

Barrow is well known in casino circles for his pro-casino findings. His “research” is controversial, to say the least. Editors, reporters and members of the public should be aware of Barrow’s background and dealings, such as:

Although Barrow talks at length about the economic impacts of casinos, he is not an economist. His degree is in political science.

Barrow is the director of the Center for Policy Analysis, which studies casino gambling in New England. He purports to be an independent analyst, but his conclusions always favor the casino industry and questions have been raised about his impartiality.

In 2006, Barrow received $20,000 from the Rhode Island Buildings Trade Council, which was supporting a Harrah’s casino for that state, for a study showing the positive impacts of a Harrah’s casino. Records show that at the same time Barrow received payment from the union, Harrah’s donated $25,000 to the Trade Council. Greg Mancini of the building trades group told the Boston Globe that he went to Barrow to add “intellectual heft” to the pro-casino position. “We went to Clyde Barrow and asked him to prove it from an academic point of view,” Mancini said. “He said, ‘Yeah, I can do that. But it’s going to cost money.’”

Lincoln Almond, the former governor of Rhode Island, called Barrow “one of Harrah’s paid consultants” who lives in a “fantasy world” of illusive casino benefits.

In 1999, Barrow’s group received funding from the Visions Group, a business group then pushing for a casino in Salisbury, MA. Other communities and groups in favor of a casino have also hired Barrow, and he has been a paid spokesperson at conferences sponsored by the casino industry.

A casino developer who controls land in New Bedford and Palmer, MA partially funded one of Barrow’s “studies” that supported a casino in that area of the state.

Barrow’s “research” often shows how states are losing money to casinos in neighboring states. But his numbers are based on flimsy research and often don’t add up. For example, during last year’s debate over plans for three casinos in Massachusetts, Barrow claimed that his research showed that 35% of the patrons at Foxwoods hailed from Massachusetts. He reached that conclusion by hiring students to record license plates parked at Foxwoods over a five-day period. However, Foxwoods officials said based on their own analysis of license plates, credit card receipts and other data, the number of Massachusetts patrons regularly visiting Foxwoods is actually much lower.

Rep. Dan Bosley of Massachusetts told the Globe that Barrow's studies are speculative, rely on a sample of casino patronage that is too small, and assume values for calculating total spending that cannot be verified. “Given Dr. Barrow's flawed research, it's a little embarrassing that he is a tenured professor at a public university,” Bosley said.

In an editorial in May, SeaCoastToday.com took issue with Barrow calling complaints by casino “skeptics” as “rhetoric.” “By labeling opponents ‘skeptics’ and their words ‘rhetoric,’ Dr. Barrow goes beyond describing the poll results,” the editorial stated. “He casts a negative light on anyone who would oppose or even question (those pesky skeptics!) the idea that Massachusetts should welcome casinos. Unfortunately, Dr. Barrow is starting to look more like a lobbyist — and less like someone whose research happens to receive private funding.”
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Nevertheless, in an e-mail to Oxford County Commissioners, the backers of Question 2 describe Barrow as “one of the most respected” experts of casino gambling in the country. He sure is respected by the casino industry.

Contact: Dennis Bailey, 207-749-4963

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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how close the pros and cons of the Bangor racino have come to the projections? Have they gotten the estimated patronage? What has been the actual economic benefit (if any) to the area? What, if any, problems have arisen? We heard so much hype of all the good it was going to do for the state and how much revenue it was going to generate, but I haven't heard anything about it since then.

When a group like Evergreen is pushing for their own gambling establishment, I would think they would be using any positive example from elsewhere in the state. That leads me to question if it all panned out in Bangor as was touted.

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The permanent Bangor facility just opened. I think it is too soon to pass judgment one way or the other. The Gambling Control Board suggested a five year moratorium so we can assess the pros and cons of gaming from the Bangor experience. I think there is merit to that suggestion.

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Oh. Thanks. I thought it had been doing business for almost 2 years now. I think that a 5 year moratorium would be the absolutely appropriate.

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The smaller temporary facility was open for about 2 years. The larger facility just opened and they are still building the hotel.

I am not a supporter of gaming, but I do think it is too early to judge the economic impact.

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I can see why it's too early to tell, especially if they don't have their hotel open yet. I guess it's been long time since I've been to Bangor. The hotel will be pivotal in being able to market trip packages. When is that going to be open?

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Boston.com
The Associated Press
Casino debate catches fire in Maine

By David Sharp, Associated Press Writer | October 5, 2008

PORTLAND, Maine --Despite being on the ballot, a proposal for a casino in the hills of western Maine was dead, for all intents and purposes, up until a few weeks ago...

"Before it was dead in the water and no one was taking it seriously. Now, my phone's ringing off the hook and people are sending in money," said Dennis Bailey, executive director of Casinos No! "They've ramped it up, and we're ramping it up too."

[url=http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2008/10/05/casino_debate...

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ListenASec -

The Hollywood Slots hotel has been open for a couple of weeks.

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Backers: Casino's 907 jobs crucial

By Scott Thistle , Regional Editor
Thursday, October 9, 2008

LEWISTON - Oxford County casino backers unveiled an economic impact study Wednesday showing their $184 million project would create 907 jobs.

Casino supporters hired Clyde Barrow, director of the Center for Policy Analysis at the University of Massachusetts in Dartmouth, to produce the impact study, billed by them as an independent analysis. Barrow put the number of casino-related jobs, including construction and support positions, at more than 1,200.

http://www.sunjournal.com/index.php?t=3&storyid=286431

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Oxford in line for casino

By M. Dirk Langeveld , Staff Writer
Friday, October 10, 2008

OXFORD - A Las-Vegas based group announced Thursday it plans to build a resort casino in Oxford if the project is approved by Maine voters in November.

Dean Harrold, vice chairman of Olympia Gaming, said Oxford has a ready work force and represents "the corridor to Western Maine." Placing the casino there would open up other economic opportunities in the area, he said.

He did not identify the specific site where the casino would be located.

http://www.sunjournal.com/index.php?t=3&storyid=286541

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Bill Ryan owns a ton of acerage around Oxford Plains Speedway. It could give a whole new meaning to the term "Racino." :D

But again - voters have to approve it. And I don't think they will.

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If not a casino then WHAT :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Has anyone ever heard or seen Dennis "the menace" Bailey make any pronouncements on
Plum Creek. A known menace to any idea for economic development :!:

I offer that if Casino resorts are Bad, and a NO, then Plum Creek resorts should be OK
in his mind??

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